whilst under watchtower influence i had little interest or awareness in these areas.. now they have become a passion.. i wonder if it has something to do with the "cult identity or self" versus the "authentic identity or self" as outlined by steven hassan in the "interacting with dual identities" chapter of his book "releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves".. who has had a similar experience and/or change of career related to unplugging from the watchtower?.
or a story to tell?.
I have joined our local community progress association and edit the towns newsletter. Have become very interested in supporting locals and mixing with them.
Very opposite my WT days where i was totally apathetic to anything considered outside JW.
Got an ivitation to a meet and greet with the Mayor next month and will probably go to that too.
weird!
Oz
i wonder how many jehovah`s witnesses today realise that 3 presidents of the then international bible students association under w.h.conley,1st president,then c.t.russell 2nd president,followed by j.f.rutherford,the 3rd president who changed the name from the i.b.s.a.
to jehovahs witnesses,and especially the 2nd & 3rd presidents,lived ,taught and proclaimed to all who would listen,up until their death,that jesus invisible presence began not in 1914,but had occured in 1874.. none of these three early presidents beleived jesus invisible presence began in 1914.. the wtb&ts didn`t start teaching the invisible presence of jesus christ began in 1914 until the year 1943.. that is almost seven decades, 70 years, after they were formed as a bible student group.. w.h.conley was only president for a short period of time.
c.t.russell started zions watchtower & herald of christs presence in 1879 ,he died in 1916. j.f rutherford assumed control of the i.b.s.a.
Anyone know where i can download the 1943 truth shall make you free?
done google, all the links are old and broken...
Oz
the victorian premier, ted baillieu and attorney-general robert clark made the announcement at parliament house at 1.15pm yesterday.. some would prefer a royal inquiry (see article), but either way, things could get uncomfortable in wt world down the track.. an inquiry was one of the key recommendations of an earlier inquiry into child protection by retired judge phillip cummins.. this was the same inquiry steven unthank made submission to in person, which was fairly well received.
the efforts many others have gone to in order to add weight will surely have also contributed.
a number here have made a contribution in various ways and can feel gratified by this progress.. the full herald sun article is here.. .
And the WT will say..."we don't have priests or clergy, so you can't touch us".
we all know they put 'clergy status' on and off like a costume to suit the event...
Oz
my mother has the c.o staying and told her the new zealand bethel is about to be closed and the land and buildings sold.. .
karter..
Like any corporation, the bean counters get to shut down outlets they find to not be profitable.
pretty funny for a 'non profit' organization.
Oz
this is just my musing.
there's no serious controversy in my musings, just ramblings.
i suppose in 30 to 40 years (or less), sally and her brother may be selling the property on the beach at the end of the paved road, so that whatever remains of their family will have a few more million dollars and will be able to pioneer.
The kids will never marry, even after ma and pa have passed into eternal oblivion. They will die in that old trailer leaving what will probably be a 10 million dollar peice of land by then, to the Watchtower.
my guess.
Oz
Spot on zid!
i thought it funny/ironic that they show a social network up on the PC and a worried about to be either dismissed or not employed fellow, while they elders are known to peruse facebook looking for suss JWs!
big brother is watchin' ya betherl boys and girls...
and no offence taken at any time! I guess a WTF may have been in order...after all i didn't exactly explain why i posted it!
Oz
Not criticizing the speakers handle of english etc,
But for a special talk and special announcement i would have though they would pick an 'effective' public speaker.
Just says to me they couldn't care less...just use whoever is up next on the talk schedule...
Oz
my 2006 wt library wont open all the others do.. whats there they wish to hide?.
maybe they self destruct after 6 years to wipe out incriminating material...
Oz
this story means a lot to me, as jan kikkert is the father of the elder that headed my judicial committee, luc kikkert.
yan was a regular pioneer that was sent to tasmania with his 4 boys to serve where the need was greater.
he started an affair with a girl 40 years younger than himself.
Write a letter to the paper with the real status of his JW-ness
Oz
